i'm joined again by chris lehane, a democratic strategist, a crisis communications expert. we did talk a little bit about what a challenger should do in light of this. i'm actually -- i want to go back to something else we began to talk about, which is in 2000 when al gore won the popular vote, but apparently lost -- at least one supreme court justice, but the question was at what point do you give up the ship. >> uh-huh. >> jennifer: you were inside those conversations, and would you have advise if we come down to an election that is so close like that. >> yeah. to me one of the critical issues is we had to deal with this the morning of the election, right? which is a lot of people didn't realize that al gore actually had won the popular vote.